Vesterman.com has been serving all of your Vesterman needs since 1999, but it and various other Vesterdomains have for long parts of that time (including in recent years) been unusable, down, broken, and/or extremely bare-bones. This clearly implies that your Vesterman needs haven't been very large during those periods. But I can feel your Vesterman needs growing in leaps and bounds!
Most of the time, such issues were due in large part, or sometimes completely, to my laziness, dumbness, and/or incompetence. The direct cause of the most recent (and ongoing) issues, though, was the horrible, horrible web hosting company that purchased the not-quite-so-horrible web hosting company that the sites were previously hosted on. This is not to excuse my share of the blame, as even in this case I should've migrated to another web hosting company long before the horrible, horrible one recently upped its horribleness game.
I am currently migrating to a hopefully-not-horrible web hosting company (well, two of them, really (well, really really, three of them (and probably more that I'm not remembering at the moment (but who's counting)))).
I'm putting this page up here to log what has been done, what I am doing, and what is to be done in this migration. The reason I'm doing that, in turn, is in the probably-futile hopes that the prospect of public shame will prevent me from not doing anything.
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Vesterdomain or (Means) |
Purpose | Current Priorities |
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| (Datacom) | Domain registry for TLD .mn |
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| (Embassy of Mongolia to the USA) | Like it says on the tin |
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| FoodClub.us | Food Club! |
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| (Groups.io) | Email list management, and saving what can be saved of the remains of my sanity |
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| (HostPapa) | Web hosting |
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| (Linode) | Web hosting |
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| (Namecheap) | Domain registry and web hosting |
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| (Proton) | Email hosting |
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| rwv37.com | Cybersquatting myself |
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| ThirtySeven.faith | ⰁⰀ |
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| ThirtySeven.science | ⰁⰀ |
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| Ultracrepi.date | Vesterdomain infrastructure |
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| Vesterman.com | Serving your Vesterman needs |
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| Vesterman.net | Vesterdomain infrastructure |
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| Vesterman.org | Cybersquatting myself |
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| Vesterman.sexy | Sexiness |
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| Vestertopia.com | Cybersquatting myself |
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| Vestertopia.email | Vesterdomain infrastructure |
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| Vestertopia.net | Internal Vestertopian infrastructure |
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| Vestertopia.org | The official domain of the Eptatriacontarchate of Vestertopia |
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| Vstr.mn | Vestertopian-Mongolian diplomatic relations |
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| Date | Non-Vestertopian date | Update Number | Info |
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| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰿ | 2026/09/25 | ⰁⰀ |
Update number ⰁⰀ!
Various minor tweaks and such for getting the Namecheap server in shape. Next main high-level thing (besides continuing to serve your Vesterman needs, sexily continuing to sexily be sexy, continuing to protect vital Vestertopian infrastructure and national secrets, and continuing to attempt to reestablish Vestertopian-Mongolian diplomatic relations): Get websites and some other stuff migrated from Namecheap to Linode.
Noticeable changes will be slow at this point (well, yeah, yeah, I know... but I mean slower than they have been thus far). It will take some time to get the Linode server in the shape I desire, even before migrating the websites and such, and even then they will be migrated more or less as they currently are (i.e. mostly barebones). The direct goal in this, as I've mentioned before, is to get myself "real" control over the domains, as opposed to needing to worry about Webuzo or something like it; in my experience, I always wind up finding those kinds of things counterproductive, as I'm always fighting against them. In fairness to Webuzo (and things like it), I want to explicitly say here that I consider that mostly due to my own tedious psychological issues rather than really due to Webuzo or whatever. Anyway, after that, I intend to work on a big redesign/modernization of the internal behind-the-scenes stuff, which will take quite some time but at least in theory will enable me to more easily, more quickly, and (probably most importantly) less full-of-despair-at-the-idea-of-making-pretty-much-any-change-at-all-given-the-state-of-my-ancient-behind-the-scenes-stuff-ily make changes that I've long wanted to have made, but have for just as long been full of despair at the idea of actually making (given the state of my ancient behind-the-scenes stuff). The intended first noticeable change after all (or at least a select subset) of that is getting the historical records of Food Club up to date. I certainly might make other noticeable changes here and there before that, and even before completing the big behind-the-scenes redesign/modernization, but I imagine it would be limited to (A) emergencyesque changes and (B) trivial little stuff that might strike my fancy once in a while.
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| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰾ | 2026/09/24 | Ⱔ | Sent out invites for the new mailing list. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰾ | 2026/09/23 | Ⱓ |
Groups.io has approved the FCEE mailing list, so I then tried it out. Everything seems to be working fine. Then I made some changes to the IEAFCEELG to take the new host into account (though really this part was mostly just getting it to compile under a vaguely recent version of Java). Tested that out too, and it also seems to be working fine.
Unfortunately, this will require people to accept invites to the new list (which I will send out shortly), and perhaps alter any spam whitelisting kind of things that they have. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰽ | 2026/09/23 | Ⱒ |
Spent some time working on trying to configure GNU Mailman. Turns out, I am too one-or-more-of-the-following to accomplish this right now:
So, change of plans! I spent a little time investigating external email list services, and wound up thinking that Groups.io seems OK, or possibly even good. Signed up for an account there, made a group, and some little config stuff. Asked it to send out email invites to myself and the IEAFCEELG so that I could test it out. Unfortunately, neither I nor the IEAFCEELG have received those invites. Looking into it a little further, I noticed that some of the functionality (like starting a new topic via the website) just says "This group has not yet been approved. Once it has been approved, you will be able to post to it." Looking into it even further, I found stuff saying that the Groups.io people give some sort of manual inspection of every new group before they'll allow it, I guess just to make sure it's not obviously intended to conflict with their terms of service. This is commonly claimed to take "up to 24 hours". So, I guess it'll probably be approved tomorrow. I have high hopes! |
| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰻ | 2026/09/21 | Ⱑ |
In the interest of immanentizing the eschaton (as related to its prophesied prerequisite of the existence of a functional FCEE mailing list), I have made an executive decision:
I have replaced each of the two high-priority items of the form "Automate offsite backups of (something)", where (something) is either "its local source repository" or "the machine in general", and where in turn "it" and "the machine" both refer to the new (i.e. Namecheap) server, with two items, those being:
I then did both of the new high-priority items, leaving only the two new low-priority items. That is, I automated backups, but locally to the machine, and I did not automate copying those backups to some external place or places. For now, I'll just periodically copy the backups offsite manually. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰺ | 2026/09/20 | Ⱐ |
I proclaim the CLI environment a reasonable approximation of what I'm used to!
As I predicted in the previous update, there are a few little things that I've discovered aren't working as I would expect, and I imagine I'll continue to find such things every once in a while. But I believe it has reached the point where everything is mostly OK, and I can fix or work around any remaining issues without much hassle as I encounter them. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰺ | 2026/09/19 | Ⱏ |
More work on getting the CLI environment to reasonably approximate what I'm used to.
Nearly done with this. Or at least done-ish; there are a few little things that I've discovered aren't working as I would expect, and I imagine I'll continue to find such things every once in a while. But I believe it will soon reach the point where everything is mostly OK, and I can fix or work around any remaining issues without much hassle as I encounter them. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰹ | 2026/09/19 | Ⱎ | More work on getting the CLI environment to reasonably approximate what I'm used to. Useful things done, but none even remotely as exciting as the specific thing mentioned in the last update. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰹ | 2026/09/18 | Ⱍ |
Continued working on getting the CLI environment to reasonably approximate what I'm used to. An extremely important part of that goal has been achieved:
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| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰸ | 2026/09/18 | Ⱌ | Worked on getting the CLI environment to reasonably approximate what I'm used to. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰷ | 2026/09/16 | Ⱋ |
Got GNU Mailman 3 installed. Not yet configured.
Also installed some not-typically-default programs that I frequently use, so that muscle memory stops working against me (e.g. ripgrep so that I can just type "rg blah" instead of typing "rg blah", getting an error message, sighing, and typing "grep blah"). |
| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰶ | 2026/09/16 | Ⱊ |
Minimal but nonzero progress:
Got the source for GNU Mailman 3. Was disappointed to see it's written (at least largely) in Python, which I find somewhat awful (meaningful whitespace, beyond like simply "the thing before the whitespace is a different thing than the thing after the whitespace", seems to me to be a horrible concept to put in a programming language). Oh well. Discovered that the "Installing" part of the official "Installing and running Mailman 3" doc that I found yesterday is... let's say not terribly explicit. Found these, which at least at first glance seem better:
Also possibly of some use, despite being for a different OS, being described (by the "Mailman 3 installation experience" author) as "not maintained", and having been updated six years ago to say that it "is now 1-1/2 years old", is Mailman 3 Setup Using Ubuntu Bionic. Looks like it contains a good amount of detail, though, so I'm adding it to this list just in case. Am tired. Will resume later. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰵ | 2026/09/14 | Ⱉ |
Started investigating the whole mailing list manager thing. Some stuff for future reference:
The existing mailing list manager (on the old server, i.e. HostPapa) is GNU Mailman version 2.1. Version 2.* is end-of-life, and will receive no updates beyond critical fixes and the like. I haven't yet looked at the details closely, but it seems like upgrading an existing list from version 2 to version 3 is a pretty manual process. There is no version of GNU Mailman installed on the new server (i.e. Namecheap). Moreover, although Webuzo has lots of click-to-install things for a whole bunch of applications, there's none for GNU Mailman (neither version 2 nor 3). There are click-to-install things for various things that are described as mailing list managers, but these seem to be intended more for unidirectional spamblasting (or, presumably, more legitimate unidirectional mailing lists) than for multidirectional conversational lists. I don't know for certain that none of them have conversational support, but at the very least their brief overviews sure seem focussed on unidirectional blasting. There's a yum (or apt or dnf or whatever it's called) package for GNU Mailman 3 appropriate to the new server's OS (AlmaLinux 9), so I suppose I could install that. I'm not a big user of Linux, though, so I don't feel comfortable enough to immediately judge the reputability of any particular y/a/d/w package repository. So, I guess I could investigate that first, but I also guess that I could just build from source. So, the high-level plan as regards a mailing list manager (which I intend to start acting upon fairly soon) is something like:
Some links that seem like they might be useful:
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| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰵ | 2026/09/14 | Ⱈ | I feel seen. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰴ | 2026/09/14 | Ⱇ | Post-DNS propagation testing of Ultracrepi.date. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰴ | 2026/09/14 | Ⱆ | Migrated Ultracrepi.date to Namecheap, except for the existing nodes on Linode and HostPapa. Needs post-DNS propagation testing. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰴ | 2026/09/13 | Ⱅ | Saved DNS configurtion of all Vesterdomains except Vstr.mn and Ultracrepi.date to source control, the former due to the fact that my attempts at reestablishing Vestertopian-Mongolian diplomatic relations have not yet reached the point where making DNS configuration is even possible and the latter because it's still on HostPapa, and I had saved the DNS config from there long ago. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰴ | 2026/09/13 | Ⱄ | Post-DNS propagation testing of Vestertopia.email. Went mostly OK, but email to it winds up on Namecheap instead of (as intended) Proton. Email from it (via Proton) works fine. Not going to worry about it at the moment. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰴ | 2026/09/13 | Ⱃ | Unscrewed down the email configuration for Vesterman.net that I had accidentally screwed up. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰳ | 2026/09/13 | Ⱂ | Checked on (and fixed when appropriate) proper canonicalization of links to 37 across Vesterdomains. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰳ | 2026/09/12 | Ⱁ | Migrated Vestertopia.email to Proton and Namecheap (for its email services and for its, uh, everything else, respectively). Still needs post-DNS testing. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰳ | 2026/09/12 | Ⱀ | Post-DNS propagation testing of Vestertopia.net. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰳ | 2026/09/12 | Ⰿ | Post-DNS propagation testing of Vesterman.com. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰲ | 2026/09/11 | Ⰾ | Migrated Vestertopia.net. However, largely untested, due to non-instantaneousness of DNS propagation. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰲ | 2026/09/11 | Ⰽ | Tested migrations of Vesterman.org and Vestertopia.com. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰺ/Ⰱ | 2026/09/11 | Ⰼ | Barebones migration of Vesterman.org and Vestertopia.com. However, largely untested, due to non-instantaneousness of DNS propagation. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰹ/Ⱎ | 2026/09/10 | Ⰻ | Investigated current situations for Vesterman.org and Vestertopia.com. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰹ/Ⱎ | 2026/09/10 | Ⰺ | Changed "Vesterdomains" table to "Vesterdomains and Means", enabling easily keeping track of what has to be done (for example) on various web hosting companies. Also added (HIGH) marker to high priority items in the same table. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰹ/Ⱍ | 2026/09/10 | Ⰹ | Website for Vesterman.com updated to be more or less as complete as it had been immediately before the recent catastrophe. Which is to say, not very. There's a lot more that I want to do, but with the possible exception of the occasional little thing here and there, it's almost certainly going to wait until I've got the Linode host in shape to deal with everything. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰹ/Ⱌ | 2026/09/09 | Ⰸ | Combined this page's "Current priorities" and "Vesterdomains" sections, allowing more easily listing and ranking per-Vesterdomain priorities. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰹ/Ⱌ | 2026/09/09 | Ⰷ | Website for Vestertopia.org migrated to Namecheap. Not complete, but as complete as it had been before the migration. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰹ/Ⱋ | 2026/09/08 | Ⰶ | Super bare-bones web pages added for rwv37.com and Vesterman.net. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰹ/Ⱋ | 2026/09/07 | Ⰵ | Sexily made the complete sexy website for Vesterman.sexy. Rawwwwwwwwwwwwwwr! |
| Ⰷ/Ⰹ/Ⱋ | 2026/09/07 | Ⰴ | Made small but complete websites for ThirtySeven.faith and ThirtySeven.science. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰹ/Ⱋ | 2026/09/07 | Ⰳ | Made this page slightly less embarrassinging from an aesthetic point of view. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰹ/Ⱊ | 2026/09/07 | Ⰲ | Super bare-bones web page added to FoodClub.us. Now I'm off to sleep. |
| Ⰷ/Ⰹ/Ⱊ | 2026/09/07 | Ⰱ |
Over the past week or three -- time is a blur -- I have started in earnest on getting off of my horrible, horrible web hosting company. I signed up for a web hosting account at Namecheap. In the short term, I intend to use it for pretty much everything for all public Vesterdomains. I have long used Namecheap as my primary domain registrar, and have been mostly happy with them for that. In the longer term, the intention is to host the actual websites at a different hosting company, Linode (at which I've actually had, but have not really used, a web hosting account for quite some time now).
The advantage to Namecheap is that it should be relatively quick for me to get some bare-bones stuff up and running. The disadvantage (at least for me personally) is that a lot of functionality is hidden behind a user-friendly GUI "control panel" (Webuzo) whereas I would greatly prefer low-level control via a CLI. In the interest of not being misleadingly unfair to Namecheap, I want to say that they actually do give me low-level CLI access. The issue isn't really "Can I get low-level access"; rather, it's more "Can I use that low-level access without inadvertently breaking something that the GUI control panel is already handling." I'd also like to say that I don't mean Webuzo is bad; it's fine, and I'm sure it's actually significantly better for many people. Not for me, though; I always wind up fighting against things like it, and so except in the quick-and-dirty short-term bare-bones sense, they always wind up being counterproductive for me. The advantage to Linode (again, at least for me personally) is that I can install my preferred OS (FreeBSD) and easily use my other preferred tools (such as using Caddy instead of Apache as the web server), and I don't have to worry about fighting some tool I don't actually want to have in the first place. There are a couple disadvantages to Linode. First, it's going to take me longer to get something up and running on it, simply because doing so will be more manual. But the other main disadvantage is that (at least by default) they don't allow you to run a mail server on your site. This is probably wise of them, as mail servers are pretty complicated. So, at least for the medium term, I will still be using Namecheap for mail-related purposes even after I've migrated the websites to Linode. My pie-in-the-sky plan for handling the mail involves migrating it off of Namecheap and to Proton, but that's at best a plan for the long term. With all that said, the current state of things is that for most Vesterdomains, I have set them up on Namecheap. Email support on Namecheap is done (mostly, with one important exception, mentioned below). That was the thing I needed to get done the most urgently; email (among other things) suddenly became unusable for hours or even days at a time at my horrible, horrible web hosting company, and email is... pretty important. Website support on Namecheap is done in the sense that I can (and in some cases have) quickly get little web pages up for any Vesterdomain. This is likely the way it's going to stay, at least for a while; like I said earlier, I'm going to move this kind of thing to Linode, so as a temporary short-term thing before then, I'm just going to have a few little bare-bones pages. The next tasks I have immediately planned are (1) making this very page look slightly less embarrassing than it currently does, (2) getting those little bare-bones pages up for all (or at least most) Vesterdomains, (3) investigating the current status of a few as-of-yet unhandled Vesterdomains and dealing with them, and (4) resolving that "one important exception" related to email. Specifically: One Vesterdomain, FoodClub.us, has long had a mailing list that some of us use to help plan upcoming Food Clubs. The recent extra-horribleness of my horrible, horrible web hosting company killed this (and other things), or at least made it unacceptably unreliable. So, I want to migrate the mailing list to Namecheap. Unfortunately, I don't see a quick way to set up the same mailing list manager I had been using (GNU Mailman) on the Namecheap site. So, I'm going to spend some time investigating further to figure out what my reasonable options are. |